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Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

eddieawad — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:06:04 -0000

Here is the answer from Oracle.

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

eddieawad — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:26:15 -0000

Chris, I am not aware of any SR filed on this. In addition to what Dan posted on his site, I am trying to get the word out by blogging about it here as well. I have also posted a link to this post in the Oracle ACE Director Database Private Forum. So now you know.

Moreover, Dan says that he is working on getting an answer from Oracle about this. I have emailed Dan to ask him if he got a reply from Oracle, but I have not heard back from him yet.

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Chris Gait — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:26:55 -0000

Duplicated comment. This one has the right email.

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Chris Gait — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:26:08 -0000

I'm not seeing any bug filing on this on the Oracle side. Does anyone know if there an SR filed on this database corruption? If this is actually a total show-stopper database corruption issue we need to get word out about this ASAP. If so, I will try to get you to the right people at Oracle.

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Tim Hall — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:59:54 -0000

Hi.

The instance is still screwed using the catalog.sql approach. Looks like doing anything with the standard package is a bad idea.

I guess we will have to wait and see what Oracle say.

Cheers

Tim...

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

eddieawad — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:48:37 -0000

Thanks guys for trying to invalidate 7000 objects with one command :)

I believe that the documentation needs to be modified anyways. Dan mentioned that he already contacted Oracle about this.

Shakespeare (very nice name by the way), I agree with you that functionality is more important than form, but this does not mean that form is not important.

To me, a blog without an RSS feed is not a blog. I just do not want to visit any "blog" every day just to see if the author has published something new.

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Tim Hall — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:18:15 -0000

Whoops. Should have used catalog.sql, not catproc.sql! I'm trying again now. :)

Cheers

Tim...

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Tim Hall — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:57:14 -0000

Hi.

I would suggest anything that requires the standard package to be recompiled is probably cause for a rerun of the catproc.sql script.

I tried the compile-only method and it invalidated over 7000 objects, most of which wouldn't recompile when I ran the utlrp.sql script.

The following seemed to work fine:

CONN / AS SYSDBA
ALTER SESSION SET plscope_settings='IDENTIFIERS:ALL';
@?/rdbms/admin/catproc.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/utlrp.sql

At the end of this I had no invalid objects and the DB seemed fine. Even so, I'm switching back to a snapshot just in case. :)

Cheers

Tim...

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Shakespeare — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:59:06 -0000

I think it's cheap to comment on how Daniel Morgan creates his 'blog'. As with his library pages, functionality is more important than form. And I can understand why he has not enabled features like posting comments, knowing the comment history of newsgroups.
Just hope his blog will show up in Google Blog Alerts....

What's in a blog?

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Shakespeare — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:52:05 -0000

Anuraq: if you did not spell IDENTIFIERS but IDENIFIERS this makes sense...

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Anurag — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:43:10 -0000

Well , I have used Snapshot standby database to experiment above mentioned steps

http://www.psoug.org/reference/plscope.html

I tried to re-compile the STANDARD package with plscope_settings=’IDENIFIERS:ALL’ , around 7000+ objects got invalid

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

eddieawad — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:27:37 -0000

@Andy C: Yes, I agree. I saw the following in the source code of his "blog's" web page: meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0".

@APC: Indeed. Notice that he made it explicit it was not named "Oracle Notepad".

@Tim: I'm totally working from the documentation since I have yet to install 11g and start testing around.

The documentation says: "In order to collect and view these identifiers, package STANDARD must be compiled with PLSCOPE_SETTINGS='IDENTIFIERS:ALL'". Now, what are "these identifiers"? They are:

BFILE DATATYPEBLOB DATATYPEBOOLEAN DATATYPECHARACTER DATATYPECLOB DATATYPEDATE DATATYPEINTERVAL DATATYPENUMBER DATATYPETIME DATATYPETIMESTAMP DATATYPE

If collected, they will show up in the Type column in the the %_IDENTIFIERS view.

So, my understanding is that if you do not re-compile the STANDARD package, you will not be able to collect the above identifiers, however, PL/Scope will still work and the other types of identifiers will be collected just fine, again, according to the documentation.

Have you tried to re-compile the STANDARD package with plscope_settings='IDENTIFIERS:ALL'? If you do, please do not blame me or Dan if your database goes crazy :).

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

Tim Hall — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:55:26 -0000

Hi.

It works with no problems without doing the addition compile of the standard package:

http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/11g/PlsqlNewFeaturesAndEnhancements_11gR1.php#plscope

Cheers

Tim...

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

APC — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:15:19 -0000

Well I think that's precisely the sort of spartan approach to features we shhould expect from a man who names his blog after vi. :)

Cheers, APC

Re: PL/Scope in Oracle Database 11g

andycowl — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:05:14 -0000

Maybe Daniel Morgan is just experimenting with the format.

Although he calls it a Blog, it is merely a Web page with chronologically ordered content created by, err, FrontPage.